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From: "Charissa Willard" <charissa.willard@onstor.com>
To: "dl-Design Review" <dl-designreview@onstor.com>
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1.) I discussed the initial configuration wizard with the SEs a few
months ago. Both Eric Crutchlow and Bill Duffy thought that using a
static IP address would be okay for now. However, the issue still
remains as to selecting an IP address that has a high probability of
being unique. Also, is there an issue with just going with a class C
private address? These are the available private IP addresses for each
class:

=20

     Class A: 10.0.0.0    - 10.255.255.255  (10/8 prefix)=20

     Class B: 172.16.0.0  - 172.31.255.255  (172.16/12 prefix)

     Class C: 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)

=20

=20

2.) We could also configure a static DHCP IP address like NetApp does.
Below are the instructions NetApp uses to set up a static DHCP IP
address.

=20

   The NetApp QuickSetup wizard, version 1.01, has the following system
requirements:

=20

* A NetApp filer with Data ONTAP 6.1 software or later attached to a
network with a DHCP server=20

* The CIFS license installed on the filer=20

* A Windows NT 4.0 or Windows 2000 workstation within the same domain or
workgroup as the new filer that has access to any remote subnet that
contains the filer=20

=20

    Configure the following information into your DHCP server:

=20

* Filer MAC address=20

* Filer IP address with an infinite lease=20

* Any of the following optional information:=20

O Routers=20

O Default route=20

O DNS domain name=20

O DNS servers=20

O NIS domain name=20

O NIS servers=20

O WINS servers=20

O SMTP server=20

=20

3.) Lastly, there is still the possibility of using one of Zero
Configuration (ZeroConf) technologies. There is no need to configure
anything for this, hence the name - Zero Configuration). A browser
plug-in is required though. Note that ZeroConf is Apple's version of
Microsoft's UPnP. The link-local (LL) addressing feature uses addresses
in the 169.254.0.0/16 range. Microsoft refers to this as "Automatic
Private IP Addressing". This technology is defined in RFC 3927 (for
IPv4).

=20

Bonjour is Apple's implementation of ZeroConf. Avahi is the ZeroConf
implementation for Linux and BSD. Avahi contains an implementation of
IPv4LL in the avahi-autoipd tool
(http://avahi.org/download/avahi-autoipd.8.xml). This tool can be used
stand-alone or as a plug-in for a DHCP client.

=20

-Charissa

=20

=20

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Goldick=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:37 PM
To: Andy Sharp; dl-designreview
Subject: RE: [Zonda] Network initial config via WebUI -- system
component

=20

In your backup method with a static IP, what number do we choose?  We
discussed this years back and could never come up with one that was
known to be safe.  We even went as far as talking about having a small
input device to key in the static IP address (not a popular idea). =20

=20

In general I like the new idea, we should vet some of the assumptions
with customers, like our newly formed customer advisory board, to see if
this is what they want.  Just thinking of possible issues relating to
plugging a laptop directly into the 10x100 BaseT.  Do we supply the
cables?  Must they have one of their own?

=20

=20

=20

=20

-----Original Message-----

From: Andy Sharp=20

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:48 PM

To: dl-designreview

Subject: [Zonda] Network initial config via WebUI -- system component

=20

I've heard that we are going to try and have a WebUI initial (install)

config thing for Zonda release, so I thought I would write up how I

think we should make the system level network part of that equation

happen.  This what I planned to do for Linux regardless of how the

config was done, rather than use a serial port.

=20

I'm asking for RFC at this time.  If there are no objections or

questions, I'll schedule a meeting if people think it's necessary.

=20

Cheers,

=20

a


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address.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>&#8226; A NetApp filer with Data ONTAP 6.1 =
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later attached to a network with a DHCP server =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D1 =
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workstation
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any
remote subnet that contains the filer <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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DHCP
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style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>&#8226; Filer MAC address =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D1 =
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style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>&#8226; Filer IP address with an infinite =
lease <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D1 =
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style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>&#8226; Any of the following optional =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>3.) Lastly, there is still the possibility of using one of Zero
Configuration (ZeroConf) technologies. There is no need to configure =
anything
for this, hence the name &#8211; Zero Configuration). A browser plug-in =
is
required though. Note that ZeroConf is Apple&#8217;s version of
Microsoft&#8217;s UPnP. The link-local (LL) addressing feature uses =
addresses
in the 169.254.0.0/16 range. Microsoft refers to this as =
&#8220;Automatic
Private IP Addressing&#8221;. This technology is defined in RFC 3927 =
(for
IPv4).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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ZeroConf implementation for Linux and BSD. Avahi contains an =
implementation of
IPv4LL in the avahi-autoipd tool (<a
href=3D"http://avahi.org/download/avahi-autoipd.8.xml">http://avahi.org/d=
ownload/avahi-autoipd.8.xml</a>).
This tool can be used stand-alone or as a plug-in for a DHCP =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Jonathan Goldick</st1:PersonName> <br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:37 PM<br>
To: Andy Sharp; dl-designreview<br>
Subject: RE: [Zonda] Network initial config via WebUI -- system =
component</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>In your backup method with a static IP, what number do we =
choose?&nbsp;
We discussed this years back and could never come up with one that was =
known to
be safe.&nbsp; We even went as far as talking about having a small input =
device
to key in the static IP address (not a popular idea).&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>In general I like the new idea, we should vet some of the =
assumptions
with customers, like our newly formed customer advisory board, to see if =
this
is what they want.&nbsp; Just thinking of possible issues relating to =
plugging
a laptop directly into the 10x100 BaseT.&nbsp; Do we supply the =
cables?&nbsp;
Must they have one of their own?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>From: Andy Sharp <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:48 =
PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>To: dl-designreview<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>Subject: [Zonda] Network initial config via WebUI -- system =
component<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>I've heard that we are going to try and have a WebUI initial =
(install)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>config thing for Zonda release, so I thought I would write up how =
I<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>think we should make the system level network part of that =
equation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>happen.&nbsp; This what I planned to do for Linux regardless of =
how the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>config was done, rather than use a serial =
port.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>I'm asking for RFC at this time.&nbsp; If there are no objections =
or<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>questions, I'll schedule a meeting if people think it's =
necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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